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Hello, I'd first like to thank everyone on these forums; As this build wouldn't have happened without the knowledge I gathered from here, so thank you to everyone. I bought a 2009 G5 Base ~6months ago and decided to supercharge it; That's what lead me to this forum. The plan is to SC the current engine with a conservative tune to daily it as I'm rebuilding another 2.2 . I settled on the ZZP supercharger kit, only to find out they no longer had M62s or the intake manifold. This meant I had to find said parts, which I did. Along with the kit, I also purchased the Header & DP combo (catback is next). Got the AEM X-Series OBDII Wideband, Prosport EVO Boost gauge, Oil CatchCan & HPTuners.

The build is going to happen here in a month or two, so I'm making sure I didn't miss anything. I read somewhere that I'll need the LSJ oil dipstick tube. I asked ZZP to confirm this and they said you can't get it anymore most people just modify their current tube(with no explanation of "how" ) Is the LSJ tube required? Another thing that's concerning me is the M62. The person I bought it from said it just got rebuilt. However when I got it, I turned the pully by hand and it has a weird grinding sound. It sounds more of a metal on metal grinding rather than a bearing. Is this normal for a roots style charger? Other than those two things, Am I missing anything important/required?
Thank you for any help you can give.
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1) I don't think you'll need the dipstick tube, but I'll need somebody else to confirm
2) No. The fins will be firm to push, but there should be no 'sounds'. The bearings may not have been seated properly, or are toast. You'll need to remove the snout to confirm.
3) Option B tank and dual pass are usually highly recommended that are not part of the ZZP kit.
 

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1) I don't think you'll need the dipstick tube, but I'll need somebody else to confirm
2) No. The fins will be firm to push, but there should be no 'sounds'. The bearings may not have been seated properly, or are toast. You'll need to remove the snout to confirm.
3) Option B tank and dual pass are usually highly recommended that are not part of the ZZP kit.
Thanx for the reply man, again any help is good help 👍

Yeah unfortunately that's what I was thinking as well, those needle bearings might be toast. Read up on a rebuild tutorial and they said you'll hear the rotors touching if those bearings are bad. I should also look for scoring on the rotors/housing to make sure nothing was messed up. Side Note: The person I bought it from also did a port job on it. Which makes me suspicious at the fact there might be metal in the housing from the porting. Regardless the M62 needs to be taken apart, thank you for the heads up.
Second: I was debating the Option B due to bleeding the air & filling. Your suggestion leans me towards picking it up. I do live in a cool climate (Maine) would the dual pass really make that much of a difference in my AITs? It's kind of pricey at $200, that's almost as much as I paid for the M62 lol . However, if the dual-pass will in the end increase the longevity of the Supercharger I'm down for it. I've been working hard on this project as it's my first FI, been an NA guy my whole life. The last thing I want is for it to pop before I'm done with the rebuilt 2.2.
Thank you for your input Dark. As I mentioned, any input is good input.

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Ported as well? You'll need to be extra careful, that also can ruin the supercharger if not properly done (messes with airflow fluidity intake if off slightly). Hopefully you didn't spend too much on it. I got mine from an old member here and hasn't had much use (and is stock) if a replacement is required. As for the cooling, the supercharger, like all FI get VERY hot, so it's extra important to try to keep it relatively cool, even in colder climates. The Option B + Dual Pass + Intercooler Kit and you're good, even if you track (oil pan may need an upgrade if you don't do the .5oz overfill). With those 3, you'll have significantly less issues as most problems with the SC is the heat distribution.

For winter use, you'll need to run the car for a few minutes before driving around and 20 minutes before going into 'boost' (5 psi or higher).
 

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Ported as well? You'll need to be extra careful, that also can ruin the supercharger if not properly done (messes with airflow fluidity intake if off slightly). Hopefully you didn't spend too much on it. I got mine from an old member here and hasn't had much use (and is stock) if a replacement is required. As for the cooling, the supercharger, like all FI get VERY hot, so it's extra important to try to keep it relatively cool, even in colder climates. The Option B + Dual Pass + Intercooler Kit and you're good, even if you track (oil pan may need an upgrade if you don't do the .5oz overfill). With those 3, you'll have significantly less issues as most problems with the SC is the heat distribution.

For winter use, you'll need to run the car for a few minutes before driving around and 20 minutes before going into 'boost' (5 psi or higher).
If you subtract the pully that came with it, I didn't pay THAT much. If anything it's a learning mistake, we all make them.
Option B+Dual Pass it is then :p I understand heat is a killer; probably just like CPUs & GPUs, the more cooling the better.
As for warming the car up, I do it every time I start it. Let it get to ~150f before I drive it. No problems letting it warm up a bit more for boost.
I'm no expert on porting jobs, but to me it's very minimal. If anything it looks as if they just cleaned up the edges. I wouldn't mind picking up another M62 in case this goes south.
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Definitely amateur work, but I've seen a lot worse. I did forget about the pulley, is it the 3.1 default? You could go down to 3.0 maybe 2.9 if you really want to push it - although on a 2.2L '09, I wouldn't. It has weaker rods than the forged rods and pistons the '06/'07 had.
 
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